• BigMacHole@thelemmy.club
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    3 months ago

    Good! The LAST thing we Want is to Listen to our Constituents!

    -Democrats who DONT UNDERSTAND why they Keep Losing to Socialists!

    • resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe
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      3 months ago

      “We can’t be the party of pronouns!”

      Then what, the fuck, are you? Certainly not the party of the working class.

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        And why CAN’T we be the party of pronouns? What the fuck is wrong with respecting people’s identities and pushing for positive change. I’ve had enough of this regressive bullshit from these losers.

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            3 months ago

            No. Basic human decency in the face of fascism is incredibly important actually. You will not change my mind. Bye.

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              3 months ago

              Self identity doesn’t require external validation. You define yourself through your actions, not by what you say you are. It’s not a sign of disrespect if someone doesn’t use your preferred pronouns, it’s that they just don’t care. They’re more concerned with you being a good neighbor or that you use your turn signals or say please and thank you or make eye contact when you’re talking to someone or that you bathe before you go out in public. Pronouns are superficial. Try actually contributing something positive to the world instead of acting like a victim.

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                You define yourself through your actions, not by what you say you are.

                I’d argue you define yourself through both.

                It’s not a sign of disrespect if someone doesn’t use your preferred pronouns

                If you purposefully don’t use their preferred pronouns it is. In much the same way it’s a sign of disrespect to call someone a piece of trash to their face.

                it’s that they’re more concerned with you being a good neighbor

                You’re being the bad “neighbor” by purposefully using the wrong pronouns, but also, what?

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        I’m not surprised but I also think most people with these ideas don’t actually believe them. They’ve been fed a line of bullshit about people with differences being their enemies. It should be our job to push back on it.

        We should NOT pander to regressive bigoted bullshit for a crumb of power. It doesn’t even work! These weak democrats sell out their people and lose the election anyway because they’re spineless wimps. They don’t stand for shit and that’s why they lose. Shame on them.

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          3 months ago

          I 100% agree. Dems don’t have to do this. Kamala literally gained more white support than Biden, Hillary and Obama 2012. Suburban White voters aren’t fleeing over trans stuff the way the media is trying to portray it.

          But they’re winning the messaging battle.

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      3 months ago

      If by govern you mean do whatever the donors tell them to do and nothing else, then yes, sure…

      The Dems are our only hope and they havent changed much since the lost election. Its still government by donors

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    Every day I hope the Democrats grow a pair and do better, and every day they not only find the bottom of the pit but proceed to start digging.

    • BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      You’ll never get better from neo-liberals. They are essentially mercenaries for change, if you want something to change they have to be paid first or find a way to monetize it so they can make a buck off it.

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      We do? I’ve been calling Ohio “the Florida of the North”. Mostly because “Ohio Man” and “Florida Man” may as well be the same person in a different hat, “Texas Man” is his own distinct brand of batshit.

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    Meanwhile, what actually happened was that one branch of a group was asked by the main branch to a remove a post they made without going through the proper process.

    But sure, let’s frame it as banning all criticism.

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      What happened is that they banned a specific piece of criticism. Where did you get “all criticism” from? The actual issue is still worth complaining about.

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          They are not allowing that criticism to be reposted:

          After deleting the original statement, we promptly asked about submitting the post for approval through the proper channels so that it could be reposted. At this point, ODP staff informed us that a meeting with Acton was on the table. After thorough discussion, caucus leadership determined this offer aligned with our goal to bring our message directly to her.

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              The quote I shared. I’ll try with more emphasis:

              After deleting the original statement, we promptly asked about submitting the post for approval through the proper channels so that it could be reposted. At this point, ODP staff informed us that a meeting with Acton was on the table. After thorough discussion, caucus leadership determined this offer aligned with our goal to bring our message directly to her.

              The meeting with Acton herself is offered and determined to be the best course of action. No mention of resubmitting the post, even though that is what they explicitly asked about.