The former US first lady told CBS News that she was frightened by Joe Biden’s performance against Donald Trump.
We also thought he was stroking out.
We all knew he had a speech impediment. He could have probably skipped the debate outright and said I don’t debate people who commit treason and come out on top more likely. For all the shade he caught, his administration was doing good things, and I was worried he would bomb the debate, and boy did he. As I was watching it, I said to my friend they are going to demand he steps down now, and Trump is going to win against whoever they shoehorn in. Sure enough, here we are. So great, so again.
I thought I was having a stroke during the 2024 debate. It went that badly.
IIIIIII beeeeeeeaaat Medddicccaaaare!!!
So glad Joe and his handlers felt he should run for a second term.
That decision just worked out fabulously. So happy about it.
Fucker knew he had uncureable cancer and still fucking ran. If he just done as he promised an only did the one term. We could had a primary and maybe had a candidate that would got people out to vote.
Of course Trump as admitted as much that all the machines in key states were rigged in his favor. So we might still loss. But at least we had a chance. Instead he tried and fail and thought they could just stick us with Harris. And goddammit she could have won if she shifted from Israel and fought for progressive vote instead of pivoting right instead.
Of course Trump as admitted as much that all the machines in key states were rigged in his favor.
Thank you for saying this. I feel like sometimes I am the only person in the world who remembers that Trump said out loud that Musk “knows about voting machines better than anybody”. Like, isn’t that suspicious? I understand that the Democrats ran a bad campaign, but to lose in every single swing state after Trump had already been president once and was grossly unpopular at the end of his first term, there has to be something more to it than just her stance on Israel/Gaza and not running a primary.
And of course, the Dems take the high road and don’t demand investigations so that they avoid comparisons to election deniers on the right that ceaselessly parroted baseless conspiracies throughout Biden’s term. Almost as if it was planned all along…
I want to believe that my fellow Americans aren’t collectively stupid enough to actually pick Trump a second time. I really, really want to believe.
Lets just notice and remember how many people here were not only cheerleading the decision, but literally demanding that he run. They were telling us we were crazy to not want the incumbent to run.
I took a lot of abuse when I was calling for him to step down when it was fucking obvious he was going to get trounced. Harris was a shit choice but she still did way better than he would have.
DNC snatching defeat from the jaws of victory as usual. They’re complicit.
still do get a lot of abuse, some chode above in this thread is still saying we all misremembered and it was a slight gaffe that had been there all along
If Harris was going to be the candidate she needed to face a robust primary, like any Democrat should. It’s not just about understanding the candidate but about forcing them to be better in hard positions.
Harris was garbo in the 2020 primary. Did she even get a single delegate?
Even with that, Harris could have easily won if she would have ignored blue Maga and the third way crowd. If she would have let Walz be Walz. If she would have leaned into being the party of the left instead of trying to be diet republican.
Me to young voters trying to decide which senior citizen with one foot in the grave they have to decide between:
It probably would have worked out fabulously.
But he got backstabbed, and democrats instead tried to shove an unpopular, unwanted woman down our throats, against trump, again, because it went so well the first time.
Weird how people never want to blame the people actually responsible.
They pulled that plug because he was losing places they should not have been losing. Dude had to go and it took too long for the party to realize it.
He would have gotten absolutely crushed, it would have been a landslide of embarrassing proportions. I don’t know what you’re smoking, but I want some. Harris was utterly wrong for the time, but she made a showing. The DNC brass are to blame for throwing the election.
Harris could have won, but she made two massive mistakes: she was nearly invisible during Biden’s presidency, and she campaigned for Republicans, alienating many voters. She should have taken a more progressive stance and not campaign with Cheney and CEOs.
He was polling almost as bad as Trump is polling now. In December of 2023. They were objectively losing before the primary even started. December, 2023, Biden’s net approval was -16. No incumbent wins with a net -16 the December before the race. It just doesn’t happen.
Stop trying to gaslight history. The people responsible for Trumps victory are the Biden team, the Harris team, and everyone that has made excuses for them along the way.
They were “objectively losing” because the media did everything in its power to twist everything Biden did into a catastrophe and induced some kind of mass delusion that Biden was a doddering fool who wet himself and walked around in a daze doing nothing all day, while bending over backwards and tying itself into knots to keep from reporting anything but the most sanitized shit about Trump.
Objectively Biden was doing great, and he had made incredible gains turning the country back around after Trumps first disaster of a presidency, and I very seriously doubt we’re gonna get so lucky as to have another person that capable coming in the second time around to unfuck everything again
You are a fascinatingly delusional individual. No part of the Biden admin did well, by any conceivable measure.
Sure buddy.
You are fully detached from reality. Please stay away from politics so we can use the electoral system, if its still even possible, to stop fascism. Your involvement wont be productive.
Yeah, I’m the one detatched 🙄
Thanks, acknowledgement is the first step towards transformation.
Sure buddy.
Understandable. He was apparently very sick that day, and obviously also very old.
Still wish he was president instead of the shit-gibbon, though.
Apparently he has a speech pathology problem too (a stutter), which he trains himself out of… And according to Wikipedia:
Biden has a reputation for being prone to gaffes.[833][834][835]
Nice way to deny his mental decline, find a video pre 2008 that looks anything like his current condition or his condition while he was President
It’s both. He’s dying of old age, and he has a speech problem that’s been with him his whole life.
Well, his metastatic prostate cancer will probably get him before old age.
Again, so find a video, there’s tons of them on Youtube and CSPAN, pre 2008 where he sounded anything like he did when he was president. His mental decline was obvious well before he was president, But liberals chose to ignore it by calling it a stutter.
He has a stutter that he has to overcome. Old age and his sickness that day (as well as being probably the most stressful day of his life) made it difficult to overcome, not to mention him spiraling after the debate went sideways immediately. All of that is reality.
Now, his old age means a mentality decline, absolutely. Pretending it was 100% mental decline is just as false as saying he has had no mental decline at all. We will never know how much each piece contributed to what we saw.
So show some grace and don’t assume you know all the answers.
People like Biden are not deserving of grace or respect.
Imagine your user name is ‘ClassStruggle’ and you go around shit fighting randos.
“I’m helping”
I’m not shit fighting randos, I’m pointing out that his mental degradation started well before he was president, but BlueMAGA insisted on calling it a stutter.
How is that NOT shit fighting?
All I was doing is stating facts, now you’re bringing up “past great battles” with “BlueMAGA” (sounds made up, obviously if you’re voting against Trump eg. Voting BLUE, you’re not MAGA).
Anyways, I don’t have time for idiotic shit fights. I deal in facts.
Here’s a video of Biden, uploaded 12 years ago, talking about his stutter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q6i3FDPzmw
The clip it’s self is even older. “BlueMAGA called it a stutter” shit fighting dumb ass.
You can safely ignore anybody who unironically uses the term “BlueMAGA”. I’ve literally only seen it used by extremely hostile people with zero sense of political nuance.
He ***talked *** about having a stutter, now produce a video pre2008 where that ‘stutter’ is as prevalent as it was during his presidancy. What liberals were calling a stutter while he was president was not a stutter, that was mental degradation.
That doesn’t exclude, nor is it incompatible with the two facts I raised (adding to what the person I replied to) then you claimed were just excuses. Anyways fuck you and your boring ass gripes, misinformation, and interpretations of the past. Boring ass shit fighter.
Us too Jill. Us too.
I thought he was having a stroke for 4 years
Fuck her, according to reporting from Jake Tapper (I know, I know) she was one of the main people keeping Joe under wraps to avoid scrutiny. She’s a contemptible villain. She brought us Donald Trump.
No she didn’t, she knew this is exactly who he has been, a half senile fool that should have been pushed out of politics years ago. We got Diane Feinsteined, again
Ironic that we voted a fully senile war mongering fool instead of him.
When you say fully senile, war mongering fool, it’s hard to determine if you’re talking about Biden or Trump.
If you can’t tell the two apart there’s not much I can do for you.
If you can’t see the similarities you’ll allow it to happen again
Didn’t you defend running Biden until his brain literally melted during that debate? That was like driving on a flat tire until litterally the rim was sparking on the asphalt.
I still would have voted Biden in over Trump after that debate but I saw what Biden did during his presidency and it was pretty amazing stuff.
The point is that Biden needed to not be the candidate. You did the work that got Trump elected by insisting on them as the candidate.
And your vote is utterly immaterial. What you “would” have done is fucking irrelevant. The entire point is that you did do the thing that prevented us from being able to stop Trump.
Voting against Trump is literally the best cure to having Trump as president.
You cost us the ability to stop Trump. It’s all you’ll be remembered for.
Well at least you’re not baselessly accusing me of being a fascist yet so it’s been a decent conversation so far.
They sure as fuck did.
