• sunnie@slrpnk.net
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    4 months ago

    Get out of here with this tired stuff.

    All of this (gestures broadly) is the direct and inevitable result of lesser-evilism. A few people not sitting out the last election may have delayed this timeline (though I’m doubtful there were even enough protest-non-voters to make any difference), but this has been building for a long time and Harris hadn’t talked about any plans to reverse that trend.

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      4 months ago

      Immigrants and trans people are just collateral damage to you?

      Our suffering is a necessary evil?

      What if I don’t want to be a pawn in your fucking game? What if I just wanted to live a happy life?

      Fuck me for wanting a normal life rather than being fodder for your battles?

      Your assumption that we’d defeat this so called “inevitable threat” throws people like me into the fire, and you could be wrong.

      What if you’re wrong?

      What if NOT letting this happen was our last chance, and we will never be free the way we used to ever again now… because of people like you?

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        Immigrants and trans people are just collateral damage to you

        You’re literally justifying Palestinians as collateral damage. You don’t have the moral high ground here. You’re perfectly willing to sacrifice the lives of others.

        Here. Take a look. I dare you. https://archivegenocide.com/

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          False equivalence. Palestine was fucked either way, and Harris winning was probably the better outcome of the two. No outcome was going to stop the genocide, so it’s not particularly relevant to the choice. Except that the outcome we got was almost certainly the worse one.

          Trans people and immigrants did have outcomes that were radically different based on who won. The choice changed the outcome, so it was relevant

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            The choice changed the outcome, so it was relevant

            So was going around congress twice weapons to ship weapons to Israel. Funny how important it is to hold voters accountable but not politicians.

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              4 months ago

              Get me in a room with the politicians and I’m more than happy to hold them accountable. But I’m not in a room with politicians, I’m in a room with voters.

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                4 months ago

                Spending your time online telling people to vote for politicians who clearly prefer to represent Israeli citizens over American citizens is certainly a choice.

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                  A choice I wouldn’t have to make were it not for those who have chosen to spend their time online telling people not to vote against politicians who not only prefer to represent Israeli citizens over American citizens, but also prefer to hunt minorities for sport and erode basic rights.

                  Everyone makes choices. Sometimes grown-ups are forced to make difficult choices because idealistic children made terrible ones.

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                    A choice I wouldn’t have to make were it not for those who have chosen to spend their time online telling people not to vote against politicians who not only prefer to represent Israeli citizens over American citizens, but also prefer to hunt minorities for sport and erode basic rights.

                    Who did you vote for in the 2020 Democratic primaries?