He does. Paxton stated that his poll numbers were hurt by Trump’s midterm convention. Trump doesn’t respond well to comments like that.

That whole premise doesn’t make sense. At the time of voting, you do not know what party would be in the majority. With slightly different results nationwide, Fetterman could have been the tipping point in the Senate. If he voted with Democrats even just a single time in those conditions, that would be better than Oz.

If we’re looking at his current impact given the results we got, it’s probably better to consider what he voted against. Democrats obviously can’t pass anything right now, but which Republican bills have failed? Not a lot, Republicans mostly vote in lockstep, but there have been a couple of budget bills, and most importantly the SAVE act failed by a single vote. Fetterman voted against it. With Oz in that seat it would almost certainly have passed, making it a lot easier for Republicans to ratfuck the midterms.

Regarding your comments on Fetterman reflecting poorly on Democrats, I have never seen anyone make this claim before. In general, people understand that Democrats don’t control Fetterman, and whatever he says only reflects poorly on himself. This is a lot like how we felt about Kirsten Sinema and Joe Manchin. The sentiment I’m seeing is to primary them next time and move on.

I also find it cute that you announce preemptive victory if I don’t respond to your comment, considering I already said I was going to disengage. This time around I’m actually dropping the thread, though, so feel free to lay the logical fallacies on thick in your inevitable reply.

Name one vote any of the other Democrats made a difference on. They’re in the minority, none of their votes can do shit!

I have to assume you’re arguing in bad faith at this point. I’m going to disengage from this conversation.

That’s self-contradictory. If he’s sneakily voting with Democrats now just to flip when they’re in the majority, why would he say that stuff and blow his cover? Is he being sneaky or not? Make up your mind.

I think it’s far more likely that he disagrees with Democrats on some high profile stuff, but still agrees and votes with the Democrats for a bunch of other stuff. That’s still better than having Dr. Oz, who would vote in lockstep with Republicans on absolutely everything.

You could say that about anyone in the minority party at any time. You’re assuming Fetterman would change his voting pattern with Democrats in the majority, with no data to back up that assertion.

I don’t like Fetterman either, but the time to fight him is in the primary. In the general election you pick the lesser evil, and the lesser evil is never the Republican.

You think Dr. Oz would have been better? I have my doubts.

Instructions unclear, put a D20 in the fuel tank.

In the most roundabout way possible. Just remove the tax on undyed diesel, then.

I get where you’re coming from, but he could easily argue that he needs a Republican majority for the bill to pass, and that the conditional is referring to that.

He’s not really buying votes if he’s promising it to everybody. At that point it’s just a stimulus.

Not everything can be reversed easily. A bunch of ongoing research was destroyed, for example. The consequences of that stunt will be felt for decades.

There’s even more precedent for him doing illegal things! So it’s all fine. /s

It’s okay, he’s already half dead. They renamed the JFK memorial and put his name there, so there’s already precedent for sticking his name places reserved for dead people.

It’s probably an attempt to distract from the economy and the Iran war.

What people really need to do is vote in the primaries, so the good candidates make it to the general.

Probably not about exposure. They spent $30M on goodwill from Trump. Some of it was probably funneled to him as well.

“Is you takin’ notes on a criminal fuckin’ conspiracy?”