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  • From what I’ve heard from my German friends the network owner, so the one paying the isp bill, is responsible for whatever happens on the network. If someone broke in onto your network and downloaded illegal stuff, you are still liable for the fines as you should have protected your network sufficiently. Maybe you can get away with it if you are able to present hard evidence your sufficiently protected network was broken in to.

    It’s the same with speed cam tickets. If you prove in court someone else was driving your car, you won’t have to pay the fine. If you are unable to, you are liable.

    Imo it goes against the law. There’s this thing called “innocent until proven guilty”, so the burden of proof lies with the authorities, not with you. But sadly it’s not always the case. This did cause a lot of legal fights though, and to my knowledge this caused the German police to flash cars from the front now, so the driver would be visible in the photo in most situations.



  • Where are you getting this from?? These are huge claims and I’m not sure if there is any evidence for either of them. qBittorrent is a highly trusted torrent client used by thousands maybe millions of people and you are the first person I have ever seen make these claims.

    This is one of the many articles you can find about it.

    It seems like you don’t know much about how torrenting actually works so please stop making these claims that aren’t actually backed up by sources/evidence.

    Right back at ya mate. I’ve been downloading for 30 years, of which most years were with torrents. I know the protocol pretty well. I also know it’s risks. Here’s an article about it. Here’s another. The internet is swarmed with information about the safety and privacy risks or torrents, I’d suggest to do a search yourself.

    My personal knowledge (mostly what I have heard from the piracy community) says ISP’s can block torrent connections but they don’t know what your downloading.

    Hmm that’s weird. Then how did the German government know I downloaded 2 specific movies when I visited Germany and forgot to shut down my torrent client when I got onto the hotel wifi? I got a letter with the names of the movies, date and time and a hefty fine.

    Here’s an article on the German practices.

    I must confess, I mistook qbittorrent for a product of BitTorrent Inc. which is a shady company that bought utorrent and used all their clients to push ads and allegedly mine crypto.


  • This is easily avoided by using a popular open source BitTorrent client, the most popular one being qBittorrent.

    Lol yeah qbittorrent is known to exploit your device for crypto mining. They also bought utorrent, which is also used for that. A safe download client is Deluge.

    I had believed torrents are quite secure since the connection is encrypted and it uses hashing to verify what you downloaded matches the .torrent file.

    The encryption is very poor. As soon as you download a movie with a torrent the German government will send you a letter stating the movie you downloaded, with the exact date and time, and a hefty fine. The encryption is old and simple.

    Do Usenet groups or indexers have a community surrounding them?

    Yeah, there are many tracker sites with a vast community and there are applications which function as indexers which have a large community too. There are comments under almost every post.


  • Whether you pay 7,50 on usenet or a VPN. I mean, you could do without a VPN, but in Germany you get hefty fines for downloading with torrents and when you’re a decent uploader any government can use you as an example or you get fines from companies like Disney, Paramount or a copyright violation hunter company like the Dutch Brein. One movie in Germany can set you back 1200 euros. In the US there are kids who were taken by SWAT, fined thousands of dollars and got banned from using electronics for years by a judge. Next to that torrents aren’t safe. There is a lot of malware, several download clients are known to use your machine in the background to mine crypto, there’s an open connection to your machine which could be used by hackers as torrent connections aren’t very safe.

    I personally don’t think 7,50 a month for privacy and safety is too much. It’s less than half of a Netflix subscription while you can download litteraly anything.

    But there are also free usenet servers, the retention (days uploads stay on the server) is just much lower. Like 50 days compared to 5000+ days for a paid server. It works fine for downloading new series episodes and movies for example.

    Surely you can’t compete with the library that’s on OPS or RED

    I’m not familiar with those, but there are many communities uploading loads of rare stuff. I don’t think you can exceed usenet libraries. Usenet is also much older than torrents, it’s from the early days of the internet. The infrastructure is vast.