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It’s eternal september

gonna be the year of Linux everyhing before it ever becomes year of the linux desktop.

https://www.debian.org/vote/2026/vote_002#texte

The Debian Project nevertheless expects that all contributions submitted to Debian, regardless of how and with which tools they were produced, satisfy the same standards of quality, correctness, maintainability, and legal compliance. The use of a generative AI tool does not diminish the contributor’s responsibility for the work they submit. Contributors are expected to understand, review, test, and, where appropriate, modify AI-assisted output before incorporating it into Debian. Blindly accepting or uploading AI-generated material without appropriate human review is inconsistent with Debian’s established development practices. We enourage [sic] our contributors to disclose whether a contribution was made with AI assitance[sic], but do not require them to do so.

Yeah, it doesn’t vibe with me because I’m constantly moving windows from one place to another, comparing shit side by side and needing one thing as an edit then as a reference, keeping some things smaller and etc. I am starting to be maybe interested in trying out transparancy in my dropdown console and maybe a launcher that’s more central instead of “windows like” coming in from the bottom left. But I like my taskbars, especially with having different ones for different physical monitors.

well, here’s the shitposty thread I made last time I tried to voice the opinion and got got by gotchas in terminology :

https://lemmy.world/post/51030053?scrollToComments=true

Basically, some people are making interfaces for the operating systems that only have a windows manager, and isn’t a complete desktop environment, so it’s basically one step above a terminal. Things like i3 or dwm, as opposed to more fleshed out things like KDE or Gnome.

Gnome3 basically encourages the user to launch their programs as fullscreen things and scroll between them. The WM based UIs also do this, but call it “desktops” and tile the windows you have in each desktop.

I went through a craze of shoving different ones into VMs and felt that things like i3 and dwm behave similarly to the way I dislike Gnome3.

I’ve worded it like shit before, but :

Standalone WMs are basically Gnome3 for neckbeards.

That’s the fine details of personal situation and preference. I think we have a disagreement on perspective, and I’m glad you pointed out that specific detail, so that others reading our discussion can make a well informed decision.

I still disagree, but not because of a technical level, from my perspective, it’s still roughly the same, we just see “most recent hardware” as being applicable to different people.

And I hope you can feel that you can agree with the idea that it’s a social disagreement and not a technical one.

But isn’t this the beauty of Linux? There is an option for everyone. Like you very well put it: you do you.

Yep. I fucking hate current gnome but I’m glad it exists for someone who is into it, and that they are marching to the beat of their own drum. I just don’t want to hear it. I literally made a post on this.

I am curious to find out more about Bunsen Labs.

I’d say that if you’re using such up to date hardware that you need the latest kernels and drivers, you probably don’t need the handholding of mint, so you might want to prefer fedora or arch or smth, and not Mint/Ubuntu.

You do you but…

god I hate Mate. The fucking config preferences never worked properly across “profiles/saves/whatever” for me.

I like LXQT most. I tried out basically every DE under the sun in a VM (and KDE and Gnome on bare metal. Gnome as part of Nyarch to rescue my wife’s old tower and to see wtf it was like. It crashed and fucked up. Not sure if it was due to Ny or arch, but obv not a good fit)

Yes, even Sugar. Please do not try Sugar.

Bias : I use debian for my own machine.

I have two machines on Mint I am responsible for; one craptop with LMDE and one tower for my Mrs with Ubuntu Mint.

I hate fucking about with the tower more than the craptop. The laptop is just as easy to use and was just as easy to install and everything. The only thing I needed to do was to replace cinnamon with XFCE in an attempt to make it run faster since the craptop has like 2gb ram.

I’d recommend LMDE over Ubuntu Mint. There isn’t much point to ubuntu mint anymore to be honest

you can have KDE on LMDE. Cinnamon’s default login manager has an icon to change the DE you’re going to log into.

To not have fuck about with it except for special occurrences

RIP to a real one

I am totally in the dark here, the last time I did anything programming related was making a batch file in windows 20 years ago.

It’s a good thing we’re looking at this from a more “why this tool not other tool” aspect then.

To de-abstractify the concepts a little:

1. There are horrible data sources from things like unit 731 or the holocaust, and most of the time, scientists reject using them for various reasons, but the ethics of using that data is murky. A similar idea enters the picture here. Yeah, DHH et al aren’t killing people, but what about when the Omarchy foundation starts being the top sponsor of White Pride Worldwide?
2. basically, nothing is permanently done. It always needs maintenance and updates, because entropy exists. Washing Machines, Guitars, homes, clothes, software, etc. Human culture too. You may have a recording, but to keep the “culture” alive, it needs to be played by someone and listened to someone. The issue with fascist open source is that the people keeping the “culture” alive are fascists, so one is participating in their perpetuation of their works, regardless of if the tools themselves are fascist or not.
3. We are, unwillingly, perpetuating in the public visibility of Omarchy by discussing it. If we install Omarchy and talk about how we’re pleased with it, etc , we are helping others get visibility of Omarchy when we are behaving as OS curators. We are not perpetuating every other operating system that exists. The public awareness of a zillion others disappears, where we could be promoting it.

To expand on the last point : Compared to human attention, human creations might as well be infinite. Curation is how we try to limit what we are exposed to, since we can’t start from A and walk our way to Z for everything.

I guess it wasn’t that long.

I look forward to your response, ephemeral associate. Stay safe and stay sane out there.

no, you’re making a salient argument. I don’t want to dump a book length (/s) idea I’ve had brewing in my head about this, so we can have a little chat. I’ll just throw the broadest strokes to you.

1. What do you do with unethical scientific advances? Eg : Data on human limits on heat/cold/sleep deprivation obtained through torture? Can you use them in ethical projects after?
2. How does a culture perpetuate? What are permanently completed projects? If an untrustworthy party is working on a project that for now seems fair, can you rely on it while its still being worked on and have faith that you can use that to go forward and build new things without getting stabbed in the back after?
3. Curation. By choosing something curated by a “bad person ^TM” you are not giving opportunities of propagation to a project maintained and created by a “good person ^TM”.

Well he’s already broken it. 🤷

Still got those millions. Funny that