I have no interest in furthering this conversation.

I don’t subscribe to your personal purity tests or agree with the logic on that one. The resources involved can be minimal, and I don’t really believe you have a ton of exposure to software engineering if you think all of the prototype code will need cleaned up or be entirely understood, especially with devices like these. There are significant amounts of binary blobs and drivers filled with post compiled obfuscated closed source code that nobody maintains or understands even in current Nura distributions, it’s a design of ip protections popular hardware manufacturers use and nothing guarantees the quality or maintainability of that code. Just because you don’t like or know how to use a tool does not invalidate it, and there’s no reason for you to apply genuine concerns to a tools entire existence or output.

Except it doesn’t bring it to all old phones, ai can massively help resolve this.

So is manufacturing new electronics. You don’t get a perfect solution, and frankly, local ai already exists that’s good enough for this type of prototyping. I’ve read through their reasoning and while I can sympathize, I do not agree with it. It’s not realistic or accomplishing their goals imo, but I maintain that’s the beauty of open source. Fork it. Move on. Thank them for their contribution.

The reasons stated are not immediate granted fact, nor are they all logical. Again, fork it and move on. Nura can have whatever policy they’d like, but it doesn’t make sense not to use a tool, that it should be obvious by now can accomplish the prototyping work of entire engineering teams. In a good enough fashion to create software for revitalizing what would otherwise be ewaste. To me that doesn’t sit well with their goals, at least as applied to this reality. You can have whatever opinion on it you’d like, I know there’s a cult of anti ai on lemmy and in open source software, and I do sympathize with some of their viewpoints and the legitimate concerns.

What a genuinely antithetical stance to take on a project meant to keep otherwise dying hardware alive, but that’s the beauty of open source. You don’t have to give a damn about upstream, just fork and rebase into your own little niche and move on.

As always in life it’s a little column a and b. I think what they’re trying to get at is that this doesn’t save any economic productivity in the long run and runs counter to the traditional “principles” of capitalism.

Disagreement is built into the scientific method. I’m always open to shifting my opinion should the data change, but currently the overwhelming data is showing vaccines, including the Covid 19 vaccine, to be safe and effective on a grand scale when it comes to positive health outcomes for a population vs the control group. Edward Jenner faced the same uphill challenges explaining it to people hundreds of years ago when he created the first vaccine though so I suppose it makes sense the debate is still around. Personally I think that science should invite skeptism at large scale but I just don’t think there’s any place for fighting against expert opinion and agreement when the vast majority of data provides proof for it. I understand the choice in vaccination and vaccination opinion often feels like a very personal one and It’s odd, because I think a lot of people would probably tell you vaccines are only good so perhaps you feel lied to there… And truth be told, they kill people occasionally. I hate saying that’s an unfortunate reality of life, but the more unfortunate reality is that greater numbers would die or experience potentially extreme health complications without them based on all evidence we have gathered to this point and historically. In an ideal world we’d be past this point and it would be a perfect or entirely unnecessary technology, but we must make due with what we have in the face of things we cannot at this point reasonably control such as viruses.

It’s a lot easier of a choice now that it’s endemic and there are drugs, but long term complications are still common with Covid so it’s more of a gamble than the vaccine. You’re also not reading it correctly but I don’t really care to explain risk factors to you.

There’s enough time passed to show that if you catch the virus you have a significantly increased risk of all long term complications vs the vaccine. Again just look up the statistics and research. The primary field I’m aware of is heart complications where those who have taken the vaccine show double digit reductions in long term heart complications vs those who have not. Arstechnica.com has a good write up on it that I have linked below, but basically every legitimate peer reviewed study is fairly aligned on the health outcomes of the vaccine being positive stacked against the virus in wide populations. You, as an individual, do not get to choose if you live in a population so your personal assessed risk factor does not really matter because it’s entirely subjective and based on things you cannot measure.

https://arstechnica.com/health/2026/06/covid-vaccines-still-protect-against-heart-problems-large-study-finds/

The issue is you’re comparing a small manageable risk to a significant unmanageable one. The data is in. The time has passed. You had the potential to be somewhat correct once, but with millions of doses of the vaccine now distributed we now have overwhelming evidence that it leads to more positive health outcomes vs contracting the virus. A short search of academic studies will provide you significant data in this regard should you wish you validate.

Gonna need an oled screen before I pull the trigger, but boy do I wanna…

You can’t be real 😂 best laugh I’ve had in a while. Thanks for that.

I don’t think that word means what you think it means.