Well sure, term limits are a blunt instrument. And there are always exceptions. But I just think the overall will be a net positive. If they are still mentally solid, they can take positions in the administration or for their state government. Those who are able and willing can always find a way to contribute.

Whatever happened to that Hawaiian law that countered citizen’s united. Seems like states could be allowed to make their own laws for their elections to some extent, and maybe that is a way to make it happen.

I’ve noticed the trend is that even if everything you say is true, if you appear against something people think they want, you get downvotes. So in this case they are just saying they want term limits anyway. Ok. I mean I do to. I know it doesn’t solve the problems, but personally I do think it helps some. But I am also for all the other things that really do solve the problems, they are just much less likely to be possible.

If you think about it. The most successful approach would be a bug that just lowers productivity without being serious enough to get noticed. Not saying they are… cause nature seems to do enough to keep that covered.

I think it is easy to say, noone should ever spank their child. But when you talk to doctors and ask, so what are the alternatives, they give out a lot of often very vague stuff. We don’t spank our kids, but we also have very little control over our youngest. The doctors and lots of other experts simply don’t have answers. I believe that physical punishment would probably get my son under control. But I also belive he wouldn’t be the same person. And likely he would be a much worse adult than if we suffered through his youth with little control of what he says and does.

Thanks for the info. You hit the nail on the head with how hard it is to get information you can trust on this subject searching the web.

Maybe someday if AI actually gets intelligent, we can put it in charge of curating a source for factual information. It has a long way to go. But humans don’t show much hope of ever doing that.

And she does have a decent friend group. The district in general is pretty “everyone’s welcome”. But it’s hard to manage teenagers in general. So plenty of hateful things still happen. And the administration at their particular school is just massively incompetent.

We do our best to make her welcome at our home, but kids these days are more into large group chats and such. So they don’t get together as much.

First, just want to say I am not a supporter of banning much of anything medically. Medical stuff is nearly always a case by case basis. I am just looking to better understand the subject in general, and to better understand the impact these choice may have made on my kids friend.

Interesting points about muscle and bone. Being an engineer that is interesting to me, and I hadn’t thought about it. The fuse part is odd. Anymore info on that? Is bone fusing normally part of puberty or something?

And on the same front, I know that puberty is associated with gaining maturity related to changes in the brain. Do puberty blockers supress any brain development? Doesn’t seem like it does, but I am not sure how it doesn’t, and my sample size is 1.

The emotional stuff is rough. Everyone is different. Some have a supportive circle of friends and family, some don’t. That said, high school is rough all around. And kids are downright mean as they learn not to be. I would think that maybe 18 would be easier in some ways since most people have less interactions with people they would rather avoid once they are out of school. And in many workplaces at least some of the people are more mature and professional. But of course not going through any puberty at all will still generate ridicule in HS. So probably another case by case kind of thing. Also, random side observation. The kids seem to be doing less dating and such in HS than when I went. My sample size is only like 10, but it is consistent across all 10. When I went through, dating started in 7th grade. From the kids I have talked to, it stays pretty thin until 12th and sometimes 11th grade. Which I found pretty odd. That said, dating as a trans kid in high school seems like it would be super challenging and probably even more dangerous as a trans women. The boys have even less self control then men. So wouldn’t not having the desire be almost safer? And by the way, all your other emotional points are great points. Just like I said, I am curious, not trying to challenge with my questions.

You mention hitting 18 without any puberty. What does that actually look like. I assume a person of any gender would just be shorter in general, but I don’t even know if that is true. For female, there would be no breasts, but I assume one could wear something that would make it look like there were. That doesn’t cover person to person contact, but it at least covers some phsyical appearance. Of course word would get around at school, but at 18 that would likely end. But there must be more. I am just not sure what puberty blockers would prevent that would be socially obvious, and I am curious.

Question, I know of a kid in my kids friend circle. She has been on puberty blockers and is starting to take estrogen. She is 16. I would have thought that starting to take estrogen wouldn’t be truely reversible. But I really don’t know much about it. Can a person theoretically stop the estrogen and the puberty blockers and go through a sort of normal male puberty?

There certainly are. Think about zoning. There are plenty of places in the US, where agriculture beyond a certain scale is banned. And if you talk about livestock, PETA would love a word. There is just no way to make everyone happy. Sometimes I think contentment is against human nature.

When it comes down to it, you can’t make one set of rules for a population this size that everyone will agree with. So there is no correct answer, only the answer that gets the side that shares your opinion a majority.

I suppose he is one small step up from the pedophiles that work to change the laws so that pedophilia is legal in some states…

A company is not a person. The only trust you should ever have in a company is that it will always do what is best for the board.
Sometimes treating employees well is best for the company, but that can change in an instant.

Wait a minute. The FBI is for domestic issues. The CIA for international. So what rationalization could possible be used to justify this trip? We all know he just wants to go on vacation there.

Excellent attempt at a mic drop. You wouldn’t want to go and admit that you completely misread what I have been saying all along. That would just be horrible.

Perfect, anyone who is incapable of understanding this concept, please do block me. That will save me the trouble of having to explain to people who’s minds are made up and don’t want to rethink their opinion in light of new information.

So, since you only see what you want to, let me spell it out. They already have various categories of rape. Like aggravated rape and such. These are like rape+. I am saying a more descriptive term like that should be used to highlight the heinousness of the crime. But you refuse to see that. You just want to be righteous so bad you will make up something to be righteous about.

Yeah, but we know some judges and jury’s would accept this excuse. So using a more descriptive term would better represent the crime to those who might otherwise consider it less serious than it should be.

Exactly, it’s more than just rape. It rape with intent to deceive or something. That’s why it needs a more descriptive term.

So the guy is also accused of not stopping when she said stop. That is also rape. Do you not see a problem with calling them both rape? Which sounds worse, 2 counts of rape. Or 1 count of rape and one count of <something more descriptive>. To me the second one conveys that he has a pattern of disregard for women beyond just one situation. I also think the condom thing shows intentional deception, where as he could claim he was too far into it to stop when she told him to. Combined as seperate things, they are more incriminating.