Buddy no one has argued against activism or organizing here. You’re acting like I don’t understand that. This whole time I’ve just been confused why you felt to make the point at all, because no one said anything about only voting and calling it good. Some people do behave that way, but no one you’re talking to in this thread is arguing against you on that point. You’re being incessant about making a point no one is disagreeing with.
“if you aren’t using that time for something productive, what are you actually gaining? You’re one of a handful of people with the resources to actually make a difference, and you’re wasting them?”
Probably that part.
You questioned if voting Democrat will make things better
I gave examples of how it already has
You pivoted and said “I never said don’t vote for them”. Which I never accused you of saying
Then I pointed that out and now you’re confused and think I’m a bot.
If you agree voting for Democrats is better than voting for Republicans, what is the point of anything you’re saying? It definitely isn’t to convince more people that voting for Democrats is better than voting for Republicans.
Are you a bot?
I never said you didn’t vote for them. I never mentioned your vote at all. I mentioned mine.
What’s that about reading comprehension?
Voting democrat in 2008 gave me and many other Americans healthcare that I would have struggled or been impoverished without. That’s better than voting Republican or not voting would have gotten me.
Voting Democrat in 2020 removed Trump from the White House. I cannot imagine the hell we would be in right now if we were entering his 10th year as president instead of the 6th.
I’ll continue to vote Democrat until there’s a better viable option. I’m not going to leave my future up to the rest of America. I would like a say in what happens to me, even if it’s not ever going to be exactly what I want.
But if it’s one vote, my neighbor might believe it was rigged. If it’s a landslide in many states including red ones, my neighbor might have a harder time believing a coordinated effort happened across so many states and no one stopped it, not even Superman Trump
“look I know groceries and gas are expensive right now, and that’s affecting 99% of you poors negatively. But you can fuck off, poors. If Democrats get into power we will have to accept trans people, which affects none of you negatively. Surely you can understand why you must starve.”
I mean, the ghost of McConnell is still holding office and we’ve basically just moved past that as a country. I think they could run Trump’s leaky corpse and it would be a close election (even if it was a fair and real election)
Yep! But it is 100% based on the honor system and people in power making choices that benefit the people instead of their own wallets. So we have one but it effectively no longer exists
I don’t care what you do because I’m positive it’s going to be inconsequential and ineffective.
I’m as left wing as they get but I wont support the closest American political group with a chance at getting representation in government. In fact, I’ll actively denigrate and discourage others from supporting them too. That’ll unlock the future I claim to want!
Oh look, a dangling carrot.
I will continue to support and vote for anyone that promises this (with a real plan), but I have given up hope on aging in this country with access to healthcare. I have accepted that I will get by with what I can afford and die before I need to. But not before suffering and watching everyone I love suffer more than they need to. All so that these healthcare execs and politicians can buy…more than they need to.
It’s because a long time ago those in power realized they can literally create more of those politically slow people on purpose, by starving them of education and feeding them nonstop propaganda about never looking behind the curtain.
Now they have a dumb, submissive electorate that can’t stop electing them even if they wanted to. We’re trapped, and we’ll have to gnaw our own leg off to get out.
I mean all I literally tried to say was “it’s a little bit millennials vs. boomers”, which you seemed to take as a direct challenge, and had to “well acccccctually” argue against, for some reason. I actually never disagreed with your overall point, I only “straw manned” when it was clear you’d dug your heels in and weren’t reading the actual point of my comments and needed everything in black and white. You really weren’t presenting your argument with much wiggle room at all.
Okay dude, Millennials are no better than boomers, got it. Everyone is the same in every generation…only once you achieve $500k per year do you become hateful and evil
Money is the only thing that corrupts, and the evidence I see of younger people voting differently than older people, and younger people next to me in the protests means nothing. The kind loving boomer neighbors of mine are probably also in that crowd of protestors somewhere, I just missed every single one of them when I looked…
You’re not wrong that it’s rich vs poor first and foremost. But you’re lying to yourself if you think boomers aren’t actively harming younger generations, and that younger generations are totally fine with it.
Okay yes let’s unpack it, please
What percentage of “the people who have a vested interest in making sure the poor fight each other” do you think are boomers, and what percentage are millennials? And of those millennials, what percentage of them are acting on behalf of, and/or dependent on a mega powerful boomer?
And to be fair I said a little bit.
It’s a little bit boomers vs. millennials, based on the boomers and the millennials I have encountered
It would 1000% be written by grok
75 is when you’re done being a junior contributor, another decade and Chuck will be ready to think about running for president
I don’t think owning a yacht and being productive are inherently connected. Please explain your reasoning.
Do you think there are no yacht owners that fight against fascism? If there are any, I would think they’d be powerful allies to coordinate with, rather than attack, given their resources and influence.
Does infighting with and demotivating your own voting bloc sound productive to you?