Migrating here (or maybe keeping both) from @ArcaneSlime@lemmy.ml

Will put an eternal curse on your enemies for a Cinemageddon invite.

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Cake day: June 30th, 2023

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  • It’s meeting their needs so far for sure, the only issue I’ve run into is that I can’t location share with iPhones, but I’m the only one that cares lol.

    Definitely look into it before you move, it’s more suited towards family/friends, for instance “group chats” don’t have an admin/mod or anything, all users have the same power and can kick any other user. Technically both matrix and XMPP can do “more” and if you have them already using XMPP it might just be better to stay, in my case I couldn’t get them to use XMPP if I tried lol, “too ugly,” “looks old,” “what the fuck do you mean ‘enable omemo,’” etc.

    That’s my favorite part, when I do convince someone to sign up, I just send an invite link, they click it, it opens their app store to DC, and sometimes they have to click it again after they’ve made an acct to get linked to me but they can just handle it, no walkthrough needed.

    And they keep focusing on making that easier for me, you can choose your own relays and add multiple for resiliency if one goes down, but that’s out of the scope of the normals to figure out so I just let them do default. Well, with a recent update they now default to using multiple relays from their list instead of just their “default” nine.testrun.org, and soon they plan to auto-upgrade any accts made before the change (accts that only have nine.testrun as a relay). So now I don’t even have to worry about upgrading their accts to add extra relays, they’re going to do it for me!

    It’s definitely the easiest secure messenger I’ve used so far. It’s not a discord replacement unfortunately but if you just need a chat app without too much of a focus on groups of strangers, it works. There’s not much of a social media aspect to it (which I see as a positive lol), but there is “channels” (like, I follow a linux news channel on DC), those can be neat.

    More importantly, delete uTorrent YESTERDAY, it’s no good anymore since about 2009. The replacement is qBittorrent!


  • I know the pain lmao, I moved from Signal to XMPP to Matrix back to XMPP and then found Delta. It is pretty good so far though, my favorite part is that “normals” can use it easily if I can get them to install it, the biggest hurdle still is the “normal” people who say “aNoThEr ApP fOr TeXtInG?!?!” but those same people have no problem installing an app for 16 cents off of a McChicken.

    Like, not that they’re burnt out on me trying apps, I did my testing with small groups, these are people who had no idea of that struggle, they just ONLY want to use iMessage because they suck and are lazy, they legit said “instead of me installing a free app, you should ditch GrapheneOS and spend a grand on a phone that spies on you.”


  • I moved away from matrix myself, too many tech issues, “normies” cannot use it (good fucking luck), all the apps are dookie, the public rooms have a CSAM issue, it was created within AMDOCS before being spun into The Matrix Foundation and I don’t trust AMDOCS, it pisses metadata and you basically have to federate with .org because it’s the “default.”

    I’ve moved to Delta Chat, which runs off of Chatmail servers (and you can indeed host your own), the apps are good, It’s so easy your mother could use it (mine does), calls (video/audio) are working, location sharing on android, webXDC apps can be neat, they’re working on metadata (almost 0 iirc) and forward secrecy, it’s pretty good.





  • Slight correction to his advice:

    Delta Chat (the app itself) is available on iOS, android, windows, mac, and Linux. There is a fork on android called ArcaneChat, but it isn’t the only app available and the “official” one is also (as in both are) on F-Droid as well as Play Store.

    I also recommend a Delta Chat “Group” if you want a group chat, or Delta Chat “Channel” if you want to be the sole poster for disseminating “news.” If group chat be aware: there are no moderators or admins or anything, all users have the same power, this means any user can kick any other user. It’s mostly meant for families and friends groups where that won’t be an issue, but a neighborhood chat would also likely be fine depending on your neighbors lol.

    Yes, pretty much just put a QR code and it should work, it should take them to the app store directly to Delta Chat, and then once they DL and make an acct they may have to scan it again.

    You would use Delta Chat as the client for the chats, with a separate chatmail address made during set-up, completely divorced from TBird or your email. You CAN use a traditional email to communicate with DC but it isn’t recommended anymore and it’s a whole thing, good luck getting your neighbors to set up a new email just for chatmails and set up autocrypt on it properly to communicate with encrypted chatmails, and yes you can use unencrypted email but it’s still advised to be a dedicated address and tbh why not just use email if you’re not going to encrypt it?

    To your users who don’t know shit about what’s under the hood it’ll just look like whatsapp, they’ll have an easier time accepting “new app.”