What do y’all make of this?
Denuvo’s CEO (I think it was) tried to explain that it couldn’t impact performance, but that’s basically impossible. They are pushing parts of the game through a VM and doing encryption/decryption on the fly. That’s going to generate significant overhead. Whether it were to get pushed to GPU over CPU, blah blah, their DRM is still adding additional hoops for the machine to jump through.
Even if it were incredibly straightforward and performant, it’s still impossible to add no overhead. Is the process doing something? Ok, then something else has to not happen in that time
That’s not strictly true, since your frame rate could be either CPU or GPU limited. If your process is light and running on the thing that has compute to spare, well then it’s running on “free” compute time.
I guess, but it isn’t shifting between GPU or CPU depending on what’s free. It might happen to not have a significant effect (heat is still an effect), but doesn’t know.
No I’m just saying that, as a concept, it’s fair to say you can add a background process without impacting game performance. I’m not at all saying that’s what is happening here, it’s obviously not. Generally speaking, if your game isn’t hitting the maximum refresh rate on your screen, it’s probably GPU limited, but there can be games that are CPU limited, like flight simulators. It seems like this process is adding so much to the stack that it’s got a huge effect.
This just in: Doing something takes longer than not doing that thing. Only Denuvo stupid enough to act surprised.
So he lied.
Do you really think a CEO would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?
No. I don’t think they would lie JUST on the internet. I think they would also do it in real life.
Corporate malware is corporate malware.
Water is wet.
Things tend to fall downward.
-yawn-
I’ve seen other comparisons that found little difference between RUNE cracked version and the official Ubisoft version with Denuvo.
This comparison is between RUNE and voices38, so the only thing you can infer from this is that voices38 crack is worse than the Ubisoft version.
The crack does not remove denuvo, it essentially emulates the security check. If anything, that only comes with extra performance hit (but very minimal)
Would you mind sharing those comparisons?
Yeah that’s interesting, I wonder why the one I posted was such a drastic outlier.
why even bother playing aaa trash. it’s garbage even without the performance of crippling junk they throw in
I mean people play what they enjoy and not everybody cares about chasing frames.
Denuvo making games run worse is fucking garbage, but two things can be true at once.
We would have much better games overall if people actually had a lick of restraint.
Unlikely, most gamers are kids, most kids are totally agnostic to anything beyond the consumption of games.
That’s just false. Most gamers are adults and if we narrow that to just PC, you will find the average age is over 30.
“”““It does not affect performance””“”
- commented by many shills all over the internet
Which is obvious bullshit
Any additionally software and or layers will affect performance, be it by a few clock cycles to 100%, but some performance will be lost; its just a matter of how much. Its the same with a car; every piece you add to it will increase weight and decrease performance.
Saying its 0 is automatically bullshit and in this case its an outright lie
Never buy a game until denuvo is removed.
How has Denuvo even managed to convince the AAA market to purchase it’s products when they are cracked almost immediately anyway?
Because not having a DRM solution makes shareholders nervous. So a pointless system that actively makes the game worse, is a positive still.
Always the damn shareholders
Most games make the largest amount during the first week or two, so if it takes longer then that for someone to crack it, then it was probably worth it to the publishers. I don’t follow all the denovo news, so maybe with the new hypervisor stuff this is a moot point, but most games haven’t been cracked immediately.
i dont buy video games that uses Denuvo (and maybe from companies/developer that use it too),
i dont want that malware on my PC,
also am fine with a developer/company using it on one or a few games and removing it on those games.Ubisoft is in serious trouble.
TBH I wouldn’t be surprised if they started including a bitcoin miner in their games and filming customers 24/7 so they can sell the footage.
Isn’t this a single player game too?
Yeah. Denuvo is DRM, not anti-cheat.
Yes that’s my point. The performance impacts are especially egregious considering it’s not even anti cheat.
I don’t think they mean they want to cheat, just that they would expect a single player game to be offline entirely and maybe a dose of “fuck you I bought this it’s mine”. Could be wrong tho
I was thinking along the lines of wondering why a single player game would need anti-cheat.
Required online check-ins and similar were a thing before Denuvo came on the scene, so I didn’t even consider that aspect. Especially since the online portion of Denuvo is secondary to the encryption crap.
Ah. Well denuvo as far as I know is only concerned with anti theft and not cheat
Did Ubisoft actually remove Denuvo from a game or is this some cracked version?
Cracked
