Don’t hate the player. You can’t send mail with E2E encrypted headers and you can’t leave payment data and expect Proton to violate regulations and delete it.
Signal has to deal with neither of these issues.
Proton can do what it likes when it comes to messages being sent between different proton accounts. Use of meta data rich protocols like standard email, instead of, e.g., the signal protocol, is absolutely something they can be blamed for.
As is choosing operate from a jurisdiction that can comple them to collect IP addresses.
Use of meta data rich protocols like standard email, instead of, e.g., the signal protocol
Brother…its an email product though…if you can use Signal, use Signal. But it’s a different product entirely.
When my bank sends me verification info and banking statements over Signal I’ll be elated. Until then, we unfortunately have to continue dealing with email.
As is choosing operate from a jurisdiction that can comple them to collect IP addresses.
There is no such requirement. They collect them necessarily in order to function.
Brother…its an email product though…if you can use Signal, use Signal.
The point is there is no requirement for emails sent between different proton accounts to be as insecure as they are.
This is something where there are known open source solutions that are just flat out better than what proton is using, and proton just can’t be bothered. You can’t fix the whole Internet, but proton just doesn’t care enough to fix itself.
There is no such requirement. They collect them necessarily in order to function.
By default proton doesn’t log IP addresses. They’re just not needed. But when ordered to they do.
What insecurities are you referring to?
But when ordered to they do.
And your suggestion is…refusing to comply with the law?
I explained both these things in the first post you responded to.
- Using email protocols between proton accounts means they need more meta data which is then given up on a search warrant.
- If they cared about privacy they wouldn’t be based out of Switzerland. They’d pick somewhere with more privacy rights.
And I explained to you that Proton is an email service, not a chat app.
There is nowhere that has better privacy regulations than Switzerland.
