cross-posted from: https://piefed.zeromedia.vip/c/selfhosting/p/451238/1-year-into-navidrome-with-dilligent-tagging-and-rating-and-this-is-how-someone

forgive the tyos, english is absolutely my first language but we strugglin over here, ya feel? or, take it as confirmation this ain’t some damn clanker bullshit

It’s just like holy shit! this is what I’ve wanted my music to do my whole life! This is almost just another member of the family.

Feishin and the smart playlists really really shine when adding user ratings into the mix. plus, adding a “mood” tag and then being able to use our own terms, it is incredible.

Build a custom station with the tags you want, then add “not played in the last <blank> days” (depending on how much traffic/supply of that particular kind of music gets) and it keeps it fresh. Add in “rating is not 1” and you’ll see the stuff that hasn’t been rated yet, but it won’t even let 1 start tracks into the queue!

I have rediscovered old favorites, found new songs by classic artists, have perfectly curated playlists down to the nth degree, custom stations that show me exactly what i want before i even knew i wanted to listen to that right then, all without commercials, on every device i own.

i am pumped for the future of the open subsonic API’s! I think a skipped count could be awesome. I’d like to automate some stuff based off skip counts.

the navidrome plugins are getting some inertia, i am excited to see where that goes.

Other Navidrome/opensubsonic users, how do you guys use the 5 stars? for me it is

  • 5 amazing song, not only will i 99% of the time never skip it, i will try to get everyone’s attention and have them listen
  • 4 i really like this song and have stopped what i am doing to pay attention to it, it is not likely but may get skipped depending on the mood/genre desired at that time
  • 3 - this song is good and i notice it and smile while continuing doing my thing, unless it is the wrong mood/genre (can i blast it while working?), which means it gets skipped.
  • 2 - this song is unobtrusive and doesn’t appear to bother or inspire me.
  • 1 this song catches my attention due to disliking it. I will go out of my way to stop it from playing. i set up my stations to never call for those again.

I am looking for other ways to interface with this to be able to rate songs a little easier/safer (while driving?)

I am hopeful i will have the wiggle room to donate to navidrome, feishin, snapcast, mopidy, spindle, soon!!!

  • djdarren@piefed.socialEnglish
    1·
    4 months ago

    This puts me in mind of the smart playlists I built in iTunes. Several playlists of 3/4/5* tunes, plus a few other rules to bring lesser played tunes to the surface. These all fed in to one bigger 50 track playlist that would pick something like 30% of its tracks from 5*, 25% from 4*, 20% from 3*, then make up the rest with the other stuff. Oh, and it would filter out any track that wasn’t 5* that had been played in the last two weeks.

    Then, when I was rocking my iPod, if I was digging something that wasn’t rated, I could spin up a rating and it’d get shifted to the corresponding list ready to drop into the pool for future enjoyment.

    It was properly great.

    I guess you can still do it with Apple Music, but it’s not as much fun when your library is thousands of songs you added and never listened to again.

    Anyway, I’m going to see if I can recreate it with Navidrome. I’ve got 14k tracks in there and a willingness to listen to them all.

    • fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vipOPEnglish
      0·
      4 months ago

      It is easiest with Feishin , I call it a “station” but it is really just a dynamic playlist, which navidrome calls “Smart Playlists”

      but if you add some rules in like not pulling in a song that has been played in <x> amount of days, it keeps it relatively fresh!
      here is a copy of the file it makes for my 90s station:

        "all": [  
    {  
      "notInTheLast": {  
        "lastplayed": "5"  
      }  
    },  
    {  
      "inTheRange": {  
        "recordingdate": [  
          "1990-01-01",  
          "1999-12-31"  
        ]  
      }  
    },  
    {  
      "isNot": {  
        "rating": 1  
      }  
    },  
    {  
      "notContains": {  
        "artist": "slipknot"  
      }  
    },  
    {  
      "notContains": {  
        "artist": "flaming lips"  
      }  
    },  
    {  
      "any": [  
        {  
          "contains": {  
            "genre": "alternative"  
          }  
        },  
        {  
          "is": {  
            "genre": "pop"  
          }  
        }  
      ]  
    }  
  ],  
  "limit": 100,  
  "sort": "+random"  
}
      • westingham@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        0·
        4 months ago

        I don’t see an option in either Feishin or Navidrome for smart playlists. Where/how are you creating these playlists?

        • fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vipOPEnglish
          1·
          4 months ago

          when creating a new playlist from scratch, it has a little toggle

          2ZDWYD7exsa1hGJ.png

          then in the playlist, it has a Query editor at the bottom

          qpJa7xlqMB71dGf.png

          which this is a GUI that helps build the file with the extension that navidrome likes, ending up looking like this:

          F9hKffJ3rFT6mJ9.png

          so i suppose we could just start writing files like this?

  • Noggog@programming.devEnglish
    0·
    4 months ago

    Star ratings and smart playlists! Oh my! I love this stuff. Im currently using plex, which allows for half stars since im a masochist

    I dont know that I need the full ten options, but 5 wasn’t quite enough for me. If there was like 7 star system id do that, hah.

    • 0.5 - I would delete if other people weren’t listening to the library. Never play again
    • 1 - on my shitlist. Unless something changes, will probably go to 0.5 stars the next time I hear it.
    • 1.5 to 2 - Not opposed, but forgettable or slightly not my style
    • 2.5 - average content. Not memorable but fine
    • 3 - solid content, still not memorable
    • 3.5 - the good stuff. I’ll put it on a solo car ride and generally not skip
    • 4 - Amazing songs. If I was to put a Playlist on for other people and not worry about it
    • 4.5 - Favorite songs. Maybe a fault or two but will still stay with me for a lifetime
    • 5 - Id play these for anyone without hesitation and then look at them and say “was that not perfection?!”

    For smart playlists:

    • playlists by star rating
      • alts for excluding facemelting stuff to play in public
    • Car ride - 3.5 stars and up + havent heard in a month
    • “Frontier” playlist. Only play things i havent heard in a year that aren’t 0.5 stars

    I generally listen to my frontier Playlist and try to rate as I go. Other playlists for when im listening but busy and just want the good stuff.

    I havent found a good way to tag on the go, unfortunately. Maybe someday

  • irmadlad@lemmy.worldEnglish
    01·
    4 months ago

    Other Navidrome/opensubsonic users, how do you guys use the 5 stars? for me it is

    People often ask me ‘What’s your favorite song?’ or ‘Who is your favorite guitarist?’ to which I reply ‘All of them.’ I’ve been playing, creating, and listening to music since the age of 5 when my uncle showed me 3 simple cords. It lit a fire in me that is burning to this day. I do have genre specific playlists, but a lot of times I just put the whole lot on random/no repeat and enjoy Opera one minute and Heavy Metal the next, with some Blues, Jazz, Soul, R&B, Funk, Hip Hop, Rap, Rock, thrown in the mix. I truly love music and my tastes are quite expansive and eclectic. There are some songs that do have deep meaning to me tho. However, if I were to utilize the 5 star system, they would all be 5 stars. LOL Recently, I managed to have a script pick a random song from a playlist, and display it in the Linux MOTD, to remind me of songs I may not have heard in a while, when I administer the server.